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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
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Subject: Re: Kermit via PPP under DOS?
Date: 25 Sep 1997 18:19:44 GMT
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In article <om202d9uht.fsf@tees.cs.ualberta.ca>,
Vladimir Alexiev <vladimir@cs.ualberta.ca> wrote:
: In article <60dt7d$dj2@f1n1.spenet.wfu.edu>
: matthews@wfu.edu (Rick Matthews) writes:
: > Can anyone one tell me how to set up a PPP connection under DOS?
: >
: There's two free PPP implementations for DOS, EPPPD (in file dosppp*.zip) and
: Merit PPP (in etherppp or ethernew). EPPPD is smaller and probably more
: robust. You can find both at http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~vladimir/dos-tcp/
: (I've put some informational files in the zips too).
:
: In article <60dveo$q16$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes:
:
: > 2. Read Appendix II of MSK315.DOC.
: Frank, I'd recommend dosppp05.zip (EPPPD) instead. It's smaller and probably
: more robust (it's a port of Linux pppd). If you like, I can write up
: something about the setup that worked for me.
:
Yes, please, and post it here. Thanks. We do not claim to be DOS PPP
experts. We tried many DOS PPP packages and this was the first we found
that worked at all, so we stopped there (having lots of other things to do).
Of course, additional hints, proven recipes, etc, are welcome, especially now
that many ISPs, universities, etc, are cutting off shell access and accept
only PPP logins on the assumption that the only client that matters any more
is a Web browser.
: > Begin by using MS-DOS Kermit ot dial up the terminal server at your
: > Internet Service Provider and tell it who you are and what protocol you
: > wish to use over the line.
:
: Merit PPP's dialer is probably sufficient for this step, but of course one
: could use Kermit too.
:
We just wrote up a procedure that worked, not every possible procedure;
additional contributions are most welcome.
: You then advise to quit kermit, then start it again and do "run
: startppp.bat". I don't see a reason for that, why should you quit then
: reenter kermit? On the other hand, it's probably better to run startppp.bat
: outside of kermit, so as not to put the TSR ppp on top of kermit and
: fragment the memory.
:
Exactly. DOS: The Do-It-Yourself Operating System :-)
: For Windows, one can probably run MS DOS Kermit in a DOS box, by using
: PKTMUX or some such contraption.
:
Anybody is of course welcome to experiment with building an elaborate "Shim
Wedding Cake" (PKTMUX, ODIPKT, WINPKT, NDISPKT, NDIS3PKT, etc), but you're
pretty much on your own for that (would-be PKTMUX users, in particular, are
advised to read the entire PKTMUX manual before attempting to use this
approach) -- especially in Windows 95, NT, and OS/2. We simply do not have
the resources to support it when there is another alternative that "just
works". In plain DOS of course (as opposed to a "DOS box" of Windows, OS/2,
Linux, etc), you have no other choice, and we'll do our best to help you if
you need it.
- Frank